glue for bushings

[AlliedPianoCraft]

> I don't wish, thanks. I've been quite happy with hot hide glue for many 
> years, and if I should eat an infected batch and come down with mad shop 
> rat disease, I'll just go into politics. Last week, I tried to strip a 
> badly installed set of bushings out of a previously "rebuilt" Steinway L. 
> The glue looked to me like the thick PVA. It was milky white and hard. The 
> bushings steamed out, but took varying amounts of chewed up wood with 
> them, which hide glue typically does not. The original mortises ended up 
> so erratic in width, taper, and texture that I've made and installed a set 
> of buttons and front mortises to get back to an acceptable bushing job.
>
> Slay your own dragons any way you like.
> Ron N


RonN, Well said.............."you the man!"

Hot glue or nothing. Like I said before, you may be the guy that has to 
rebush those PVA glued bushings.
Double the work.......half the pay!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman at cox.net>
To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: glue for bushings


>
>
>>      I ran some tests with this stuff, Ron, and found
>> it no more or less reversible than the hide glue (
>> soaking with pipe cleaners dunked in water, and
>> stuffed into mortises ) but it dries harder ( less
>> gummy ) than regular PVA, or Aileen's tacky Glue (
>> thick PVC-E ) which made me figger it would swell
>> less, with humidity changes.
>
> What "stuff" is that, what is "regular" PVA, and swell less than what with 
> humidity changes?
>
>
>>     It also "fills gaps", a bit, so would help make up
>> for splintered mortise innards, and is so thick that
>> I'd doubt it would permeate bushing cloth, much, yet
>> seems to hold quite well, when dry.
>
> Are you talking about the thick wood molding PVA?
>
>
>>     And it stinks less, and probably carries zero
>> chance of prion disease transfer which ( because I'm
>> not a "Real Man", I guess ) also appeals to me.
>
> You're on your own here. I don't want any part of any of these neuroses.
>
>
>>     Run your own tests, and refute these claims, if
>> you wish, please.
>>      Thump
>
> I don't wish, thanks. I've been quite happy with hot hide glue for many 
> years, and if I should eat an infected batch and come down with mad shop 
> rat disease, I'll just go into politics. Last week, I tried to strip a 
> badly installed set of bushings out of a previously "rebuilt" Steinway L. 
> The glue looked to me like the thick PVA. It was milky white and hard. The 
> bushings steamed out, but took varying amounts of chewed up wood with 
> them, which hide glue typically does not. The original mortises ended up 
> so erratic in width, taper, and texture that I've made and installed a set 
> of buttons and front mortises to get back to an acceptable bushing job.
>
> Slay your own dragons any way you like.
> Ron N
>